Jeffrey LaDeur and Ken Kocienda

Ladeur is a San Francisco-based concert pianist; Kocienda is a software engineer and an original engineer behind the Apple iPhone.


"Bach would have been a good programmer, a good engineer"

Apr 2, 2021
Jeffrey LaDeur and Ken Kocienda

"Bach would have been a good programmer, a good engineer"

Variations 16, 17, 18. Bach was a consummate craftsmen -- he knew not just how to write music, but how to build it. In this Interview, we speak with pianist Jeffrey LaDeur and his student, Ken Kocienda. Kocienda was lead software engineer behind the Apple iPhone and developed a strong affinity for the Goldbergs. Kocienda and Ladeur discuss parallels between music and design, and how constraints can actually enhance creativity.

Interviews recorded in San Jose, California on January 2, 2018 and  in San Francisco, California on July 2, 2019.

Photo credits: Jiyang Chen (LaDeur)

Recorded by Lowry Yankwich

Bach: "Goldberg" Variations 16, 17, and 18, Jeffrey Ladeur performing, San Francisco, CA, July 2, 2019

Musical recordings, used with permission:

Bach: Mass in B Minor, BWV 232, "Crucifixus," Netherlands Bach Society performing, Grote Kerk, Naarden, Netherlands, December 15, 2016. Recorded for "All of Bach."

João Luiz: "7 Meetings," João Luiz and Bridget Kibbey performing, premiered August 20, 2020.

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